tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7390576188766780979.post6582744591481986323..comments2016-10-05T19:46:37.769-07:00Comments on Penny Auction Insider: It isn't gamblingMalvoliohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05213853476775717467noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7390576188766780979.post-19786163368779550602009-10-01T03:12:30.740-07:002009-10-01T03:12:30.740-07:00It IS gambling!!!
You write:
"Gambling means...It IS gambling!!!<br /><br />You write:<br />"Gambling means playing games of chance for money -- and in penny auctions, there's no element of chance. None. The outcome of the auction is strictly dictated by the actions of the players, the same as regular auctions, the same, for that matter, as chess."<br /><br />Proof that penny auctions are chance:<br /><br />(1) Network lag: First, I observed and have screenshots to show that my click on the bid button took anywhere from zero (instantaneous) to THIRTEEN seconds to register on the auction server. I also had many bid clicks NEVER register! Does this happen in a LIVE, REAL auction? Do bids where you RAISE your hand visibly ever go unnoticed? (No, b/c there are witnesses whose JOB it is to see those who bid--and if you aren't getting seen well, you simply move your position to be more visible to the auctioneer and crew--fixed instantly. But for online auctions, there are NO bid witnesses, no one who will witness that you in fact DID bid or not, when technical difficulty or errors are encountered.) This introduces INARGUABLE and RANDOM chance into the auction--not to know if your bids will ever be recognized and not to know in how many seconds they will be recognized. So unless a penny auction site finds a way to ELIMINATE network lag, ALL penny auctions have this element of chance, from the getgo! I lost 3 of 8 auctions on network lag--I don't call that chance. (I even wonder how EASY it would be for an auction site to pick to directly ignore people's bids--and with network lag as an element, who can prove or disprove a thing? Not anyone without extremely sophisticated test equipment AND full access to the auction servers.)<br /><br />(2) Second, in line with my wondering above--the auction in which I participated (Swoopo)--I want to know how it can be said that my bid was not registered (b/c of network lag, they say), when their time clock information sent to me CONTINUED to get updated? How can the network correctly send me a time clock update one 1/8th of a second, then the next half second, before the change to the next second, NOT register my bid click (my BID button changed colors to show that I had clicked it), and then go back to sending me the next 1/8th of a second (actually less) clock update on time? So it sends ME information without hitch, yet it doesn't receive mine without problems? No, I just don't believe in a one-way network lag error. (OK, yes, many times the auction clock as sent to me did stumble and have delays, but I am talking about times the clock, as sent to me, did not stumble or have delays, yet my bids were lost, unrecognized, or delayed past auction close/end. And when this "network lag" error can cost me $50 in bids each time it happens....) I have screenshots of Swoopo showing me 1 second on the clock while saying that the auction ended, and my bid (and my $50) was lost and taken away.<br /><br />Stop lying and telling others and yourself that penny auctions are not gambling! In a REAL, legitimate auction, my bids are NOT going to go unrecognized, AGAIN and AGAIN! But I can't click my mouse "harder" and "louder" to fix my bids not being recognized--whereas in an actual auction, I can physically correct any problem I may experience in my bids being recognized.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00360556889492155381noreply@blogger.com